Anyone who has ever been involved in the planning of public transport will know that it is a minefield from start to finish.
One very famous quotation is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" but as the world of transport continues to battle with the car, we are forced to look at new and innovative ways to improve our offering and also serve areas which are either new estates or to divert around a problematic area whether that be social or traffic.
Recently, the Sheffield Bus Partnership as good as ripped up the timetables and routes and started again. These were consulted to the good people of the city and the responses were overwhelming and also very upset at the PTE's plans who would "make a mess of their network".
The start of November saw the "revised" version hit the city's streets and just a few weeks into the new network, things don't seem to be getting any better with the local newspaper, Sheffield Star being full of letters, emails and editorial commenting on the state of the new bus services.
It was to be an improvement on the old setup with new numbers brought in and the big companies all coordinating to provide the best possible service. However the only thing that it has united is its passengers ... all getting together to social media and the local press and condemning what has to be one of the worst reorganisations of a transport network that the city has ever seen.
TAS is a consultancy who were drafted into review and implement the changes with First, Stagecoach, TM Travel and others all merging together with cross-company ticketing and a general Mary Poppins feel to travelling by bus. It's actually more Marilyn Manson.
Maybe not on such a grand scale, but all bus operators have in the past tried to reinvent routes and retimed services and it has sometimes failed. The question is though, how do you deal with it when it has gone wrong and also how long do you give it until you have to say, "it's great on paper, dreadful in reality".
This is the dilemma at the moment in Sheffield. Teething problems with any change follow and you have to be respectful to that before making the final call of going back to the drawing board. The worry is that SYPTE have used a consultancy and many of those people do not actually use the buses. In any good company, the key is your front-line staff. Their views are priceless and I suspect these people are the ones who haven't had the opportunity to say and suggest what they think needs to be done to the Sheffield network. Drivers and controllers are so valuable to a transport business and it's sad to note that this gets overlooked for a consultancy. Bad move.
In reality, nothing can change until around February at the earliest, not least to register any changes so you would expect that Sheffield has to put up with their new wonderful bus services until at least the summer of next year. I'm sure the big boys at First and Stagecoach are delighted with the exposure they are receiving from something that for a change isn't actually their fault.
In my opinion, it's a case of waiting another few weeks and try and iron out some of the recurring problems and if this is still the same after six weeks of running then we have to go back to that drawing board (or SYPTE in this case) and try again.
Although the next time they try again, talk to the people that make it happen every day. They are the most useful tool you have.
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Wednesday, 18 November 2015
At what point is it prudent to say we've got it wrong?
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Tuesday, 17 November 2015
The purpose of bus numbers?
Many years ago, South Yorkshire had one of the best numbering systems which made much sense. The reason for this blog came as I tweeted First South Yorkshire to ask if there were any problems on the 81/82 route. The reply was prompt and came back as:
"Hi. We are experiencing some difficulties in the Intake area which means buses are up to 30 mins late".
Services 81 and 82 run from Stannington to Dore via the city centre and don't even get towards the Manor estate let alone as far as Intake. However, South Yorkshire is not only blessed with two Intakes (the other being in Doncaster) but it also has two 81/82 routes, this one being the Doncaster to Armthorpe circular. Guess which one they thought I was referring to.
A quick reply to the tweet confirmed that I was in Sheffield and not Doncaster which a reply stated that I should always mention which 81/82 bus I'm referring to.
Being in the industry, I know one or two things about buses. What a mere passenger from Dore wouldn't know is that his bus number is replicated 25 miles away and run by the same business. Surely it would make sense to avoid this problem and have unique numbers?
South Yorkshire Transport (later South Yorkshire's Transport after 1986) had an excellent way of dealing with bus numbering long before the availability of a phone which could send silly messages via a bird. They all conformed to a set batch of numbers and with vehicles having a three-track number blind, the possibilities were endless, or at least 999 of them anyway.
Sheffield had anything from 1 through to 99, neighbouring Rotherham offered 100 to 149, the outpost of Doncaster went from 150 to 199 with peak and out of town services (such as the great 277/278 Sheffield - Doncaster, now the X78) numbered in the 200s.
I can't recall the 300s but the 400s ended up being taken by SheafLine, an independent which was bought by SYT so fitted the pattern well. The only weird part of this was the 455/456 which ended up being the Doncaster - Edlington service. Why this bucked the trend of numbers is anyone's guess.
600s were used for morning schools and works buses with 700s for the evening. 800s were for the mobility buses and the final bunch was X-prefixed services for express routes. So based on that we were over 1,000 different numbers (if you class a lettered prefix as a number!)
The point being that there was no overlapping of route numbers whether that bus be in Goole or in Totley. South Yorkshire is admittedly large but with three numbers the possibilities were endless. First undertook a renumbering scheme in the early 2000s and eradicated most of the three-digit routes for easier to remember ones. Yes I had great difficulty as a youngster remembering my bus home was a 126 because it had so many digits for my tiny mind. It wasn't like trying to work out pi to the 100th number ...
So the purpose of the number is identification. West Midlands Travel used to have four-track number blinds as their services often contained a lettered suffix, a practice I'm glad to see that Transport for London are phasing out, although lettered buses do seem to be part of their offering. East Yorkshire Motor Services in the 1980s decided to make all their Bridlington town services as letters, again something I've never fully understood. Or liked.
I'm not entirely sold on the idea that bus numbers should come with a suffix (look at Doncaster's 84 which has nearly the whole alphabet attached to the end) and I'm also an advocate of the prefix 'X' denoting an express service. Who on earth can say that the X78 is an express?!
In this day and age with electronic destination displays, we can put more on our vehicles and surely it's not the end of the world to have a unique number for a service in South Yorkshire and not have the need for silly lettered suffixes either.
Let's have some common sense on bus numbering please!
"Hi. We are experiencing some difficulties in the Intake area which means buses are up to 30 mins late".
Services 81 and 82 run from Stannington to Dore via the city centre and don't even get towards the Manor estate let alone as far as Intake. However, South Yorkshire is not only blessed with two Intakes (the other being in Doncaster) but it also has two 81/82 routes, this one being the Doncaster to Armthorpe circular. Guess which one they thought I was referring to.
A quick reply to the tweet confirmed that I was in Sheffield and not Doncaster which a reply stated that I should always mention which 81/82 bus I'm referring to.
Being in the industry, I know one or two things about buses. What a mere passenger from Dore wouldn't know is that his bus number is replicated 25 miles away and run by the same business. Surely it would make sense to avoid this problem and have unique numbers?
South Yorkshire Transport (later South Yorkshire's Transport after 1986) had an excellent way of dealing with bus numbering long before the availability of a phone which could send silly messages via a bird. They all conformed to a set batch of numbers and with vehicles having a three-track number blind, the possibilities were endless, or at least 999 of them anyway.
Sheffield had anything from 1 through to 99, neighbouring Rotherham offered 100 to 149, the outpost of Doncaster went from 150 to 199 with peak and out of town services (such as the great 277/278 Sheffield - Doncaster, now the X78) numbered in the 200s.
I can't recall the 300s but the 400s ended up being taken by SheafLine, an independent which was bought by SYT so fitted the pattern well. The only weird part of this was the 455/456 which ended up being the Doncaster - Edlington service. Why this bucked the trend of numbers is anyone's guess.
600s were used for morning schools and works buses with 700s for the evening. 800s were for the mobility buses and the final bunch was X-prefixed services for express routes. So based on that we were over 1,000 different numbers (if you class a lettered prefix as a number!)
The point being that there was no overlapping of route numbers whether that bus be in Goole or in Totley. South Yorkshire is admittedly large but with three numbers the possibilities were endless. First undertook a renumbering scheme in the early 2000s and eradicated most of the three-digit routes for easier to remember ones. Yes I had great difficulty as a youngster remembering my bus home was a 126 because it had so many digits for my tiny mind. It wasn't like trying to work out pi to the 100th number ...
So the purpose of the number is identification. West Midlands Travel used to have four-track number blinds as their services often contained a lettered suffix, a practice I'm glad to see that Transport for London are phasing out, although lettered buses do seem to be part of their offering. East Yorkshire Motor Services in the 1980s decided to make all their Bridlington town services as letters, again something I've never fully understood. Or liked.
I'm not entirely sold on the idea that bus numbers should come with a suffix (look at Doncaster's 84 which has nearly the whole alphabet attached to the end) and I'm also an advocate of the prefix 'X' denoting an express service. Who on earth can say that the X78 is an express?!
In this day and age with electronic destination displays, we can put more on our vehicles and surely it's not the end of the world to have a unique number for a service in South Yorkshire and not have the need for silly lettered suffixes either.
Let's have some common sense on bus numbering please!
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